Talking Lion

Talking Lion is a weekly artist-to-artist interview podcast hosted by Nate Flaks & Noah Longworth McGuire of Sleeping Lion. As artists/songwriters/producers, they have worked with many incredible rising artists since starting Sleeping Lion. Whether at sessions, parties, or over cups of coffee, they’ve had countless conversations with artists in the middle of their musical journeys. Talking Lion is about hitting ”record” on these conversations about what life’s been like & where it’s going.

Chat #27: The Gambler’s Guide To The Music Industry (Part 5 - A Utile Gesture)

August 18th, 2022

In which Nate either expands on the utility area of Game Theory or completely overcomplicates it...

Ep. 78: Sadie Jean

August 11th, 2022

In this episode, we talked to our new friend Sadie Jean about audiences, first milestones, show zen, the pigeon superstition experiment, open verses, manufactured jealousy, France, early-2000's radio, brother-managers, wooden spoons, rapid nostalgia, letters to the future, Lil Yachty, and her viral debut single "WYD Now?"

Edited by Mason Maggio


Chat #26: CTFO

August 4th, 2022

In this episode, we talk candidly about the complicated history of our recently released single "CTFO"

Ep. 77: bennytheghost

July 28th, 2022

In this episode, we talked to our new friend bennytheghost about fart jokes, Peru retreats, silliness, cubic fame, Bach, music enthusiasts, backpacking, adopted phobias, CEO'ing, camping in Joshua Tree, Fresh Finds gatherings, spelunking, pirate booty, and his recently released EP "29 Palms". 


Ep. 76: Erin Kirby

July 14th, 2022

In this episode, we talked to our good friend Erin Kirby about staying in Vegas, dog people, momagers, pageants, first impressions, American Idol, studio teachers, divine phone calls, writing songs about people, concert hotdogs, and the process of writing "Practice Girlfriend" & "Waste More Time" together. 

Edited by Mason Maggio


Chat #25: The Gambler’s Guide To The Music Industry (Part 4 - Game Theory)

July 6th, 2022

OUR 100th EPISODE! How can we use Game Theory to change how we think about decisions & outcomes?


Ep. 75: Cody Lovaas

June 30th, 2022

In this episode, we talked to our good friend Cody Lovaas about cantaloupe juice, spirituality, break ups, surfing, transient rooms, San Diego doors, social engineering, Jason Mraz's support, high school crushes, fleeting feelings, hungover music video shoots, scarcity mentalities, ichthyophobia, wellness, Wim Hof, his song "All Around Me" (with Bahari), and working together to co-produce "Rocket".



Ep. 74: Emei

June 15th, 2022

In this episode, we talked to our good friend Emei about Settlers of Catan, our game nights (w/ Charlie Curtis Beard & Em Beihold), UPSAHL at School Night, promposals, public relationships, cold DM's, being a Chinese pop star, cultural context, AAPI racism, moving in with a partner, federal therapists, chicken wars, slime, idiosyncratic love, lucky Chinese names, Beijing cabs, Shanghai markets, massages, chaotic days, crochet, and the stories behind her songs "Late To The Party" & "Better People to Leave on Read" 


(Edited by Mason Maggio)

Chat #24: The Gambler’s Guide To The Music Industry (Part 3 - Value Systems)

June 1st, 2022

How do you determine what's valuable?

Ep. 73: Akintoye

May 25th, 2022

In this episode, we talked to our new friend Akintoye about anime merch, curated consumerism, superhero scrutiny, Twilight's redemption, Canadian history, narrative qualms, CCB live, afterparties, Tik Tok journeys, formal racism, phonathons, the bonnet, game theory, toxic masculinity, ass washing, experiential confidence, elder years, community programs, Pusha T vs. Drake, and his upcoming record. 

Edited by Mason Maggio

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